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Frequently Asked Questions
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| Terms of Sale
Savitske Classic & Custom will repair or replace
any SC&C made products found to be defective in workmanship or
material (as determined by SC&C) within 12 months from the date
of purchase from the original purchaser.
Warranty claims for non SC&C made products will be
referred to the original manufacturers (ie. SPC&RP, Howe, etc.).
Parts should be installed only by trained professionals
familiar with products of this nature.
Neither the seller nor the manufacturer shall be liable in
any way for any loss, injury, or damage direct or consequential,
arising from the use of, or the abilities of the product.
After use, the user shall assume all risk and liability
whatsoever in connection therewith.
The foregoing is made in lieu of all warranties either
expressed or implied. Purchase
or use of Savitske Classic & Custom products implies recognition
and acceptance of this disclaimer by the consumer.
The seller directs the purchaser to fully examine each
enclosed product component before installation and/or use.
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Q: Can
you tell me about Savitske Classic & Custom?
A: SC&C
has been building hot rods and restoring classic cars since 1984.
Our staff are all hardcore automotive enthusiasts with
backgrounds in street and race car building, racing, fabrication,
body work/custom painting, design, etc.
We pride ourselves on exceptional quality, workmanship and
engineering. We enjoy
building “real cars” that can be driven anywhere, anytime with
complete reliability. Resto-mod
cars that look stock but go faster, handle and stop better and all
out Pro-Touring cars are specialties. |
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Q: Why
are SC&C’s Street-Comp packages supposed to be better than
just using other makers’ tubular arms?
They claim big handling improvements too…
A: Changing
just the upper arms can only do so much.
The shape of the arms has little effect on camber change,
roll center or overhaul handling.
They add + caster which can make the car track straighter at
speed. However too much
can make the car feel vague and the steering sluggish so it only
goes so far. As the +
camber is increased there is a tiny improvement in camber as a side
effect when the wheels are turned.
SC&C’s SPC adj. upper arm has this benefit as well as
more and easier caster adjustment.
To make any profound improvement in the suspension geometry
the actual pivot points that determine that geometry need to be
moved vertically. Racers
both on road courses, like Penske’s winning ’69 Camero TransAm
race car that used special taller spindles, raising the upper ball
joint pivot point like our Street-Comp package and on circle tracks,
where many classes forced to run stock G or F body chassis use tall
truck upper ball joints to improve the geometry despite the fact
that they don’t fit the taper in the spindles correctly like our
Howe tall stud ball joints do. They’ve been doing this kind of thing for years by
fabricating new parts, mixing and matching stock parts, modifying
suspension/frame mounts etc. That’s
how to win races with less than perfect factory chassis.
We’ve taken that race experience and technology and brought
it to the street with Street-Comp.
Major suspension improvement, not just shiny parts. |
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Q:
Are
these race parts durable enough for street use?
A: All
parts we sell are both race and street tested.
We use them on our own cars and live with them everyday. Their durability and longevity are excellent and in most
cases for exceed that of factory parts.
Many like the SPC arms and Howe ball joints and tie
rod ends are adjustable for wear and fully rebuildable. |
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Q:
Can I use the tall ball joints or tall spindles and use
my stock upper A arms?
A: Yes...and no. They'll physically bolt together and you
could drive the car around but there's a catch or two. There's the
fact that the original arms on A, G and 1st Gen F body cars were
originally designed to droop down over the frame and have the ball
joints at the proper angle for a full range of travel. Once you
lower the car, go to taller spindles or ball joints etc. the arms
end up closer to level and the ball joints end up close to binding
at ride height. Hitting a big bump can bind up the ball joints and
put a tremendous amount of stress on them as well as the upper A
arms and A arm mounting bolts. They'll only take that for so long
before something fails...
Much of it also has to do with alignment. A lot of folks think if
their car goes straight and doesn't chew up the tires that it's
aligned properly and working as well as it can. They're kidding
themselves and they're missing out on a LOT of performance. The
alignment specs recommended in the `60s and `70s (and even `80s!)
were anything but performance oriented. In fact they've changed
little since the 1940s. Today almost every car is using power
steering and we're all running high performance radial tires (except
for the resto guys but that's another story...) these tires are
often more than twice the width of the originals, we've also got
another 40 years or so of experience to draw on. What's more, once
we've corrected the geometry so that it works like a new performance
car it demands the same type of alignment those cars run to achieve
peak performance.
Modern performance cars run a LOT more + caster and - camber. The
+ caster helps the cars track better at highway speeds and gives
better steering feel. The - camber helps keep the tire's contact
patch flat on the road surface during cornering. It's part of what
makes new cars drive like new cars. Using these kinds of settings on
older cars yields a BIG improvement in drivability and performance
but because they were designed around different specs it's usually
impossible to attain the best numbers with stock parts and shims.
Lowering the car or increasing the effective spindle height with
taller spindles or taller ball joints all add more + camber making
it ever harder to dial in a - camber setting (which is what we
want). That's the big reason for different upper arms. The taller
spindles or tall ball joints make the big geometry improvements and
the proper upper A arms make it possible to combine the new parts
and geometry with the proper performance alignment, an unbeatable
combination! |
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Q: Will
SC&C’s SPC arms work with the B car spindle swap? What’s the difference between Street-Comp and the B swap?
A: Yes,
our SPC arms will work with the taller B spindles. This swap requires a shorter upper arm so you just adjust the
arms to fit and set the alignment.
The B swap offers better than stock brakes and improves the
camber curves and roll center height due to their taller overall
height. That’s the good news, now for the bad news…the B spindles
were designed for a totally different car.
So while they can be bolted on, not everything lines up
correctly. The steering
arms are longer which slows the steering ratio and upsets the
ackerman angle or the difference in the angles of the tires when you
turn. Worse, it doubles
the amount of bumpsteer, which isn’t too good to begin with!
This can make the car feel very unnerving to drive,
especially at speed. The
B setup is also quite heavy and increases the track width of the
car, which may lead to tire clearance problems with fenders.
Street-Comp offers the geometry benefits of the B swap while
dramatically improving the factory bumpsteer and saving weight!
There’s simply no downside.
Braking can be easily upgraded with premium performance pads
and rotors or aftermarket kits such as those offered by Baer Brakes,
both front and rear. |
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Q: What
springs should I run with a Street-Comp package?
A: For general performance street use we usually recommend
Eibach Pro springs. Sold as a kit with matched front and rear
springs they yield a firm but comfortable ride and much better
handling than stock springs. They also lower the car about 1.5" in
the front and 1" in the rear. We haven't had the best luck with Moog
springs the last few years so we no longer recommend them.
For cars that will see more track oriented use we can recommend
specific spring rates and/or coilover springs for your application. |
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